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    Posted: 08-Dec-2006 at 19:31
Last year I changed the fluid in the pan, ~3L. Actually I paid an indy mechanic to do it. After browsing PW and the web regarding the ZF tranny, I'm eager to have a full tranny fluid transfusion. I received a quote from local VW/Audi specialist for ~$300.00. I currently have ~45k miles on the odometer, but ALOT of city stop and go driving around the Philly area.

I asked the indy specialist about using something else besides the Pentosin ATF, and he said I should stay with it. I'm tempted to jump on the Redline D4 bandwagon as Rusty and numerous others have had nothing but good things to note.

Have any other W8 owners switched ATF and noticed a difference between brands? I'd love to do the fluid change on my own, but to be honest I just don't feel comfortable messing with it.
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  Quote BlueSteW8 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Dec-2006 at 19:48
I think a few of the D4 people have actually reverted to Pentosin ATF?

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  Quote SirRangeALot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Dec-2006 at 03:38
At what intervals should a tranny fluid flush be done? I'm up to 66,400 miles on my W8 now...
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  Quote W8bahnburner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Dec-2006 at 09:17
VW says it a lifetime fluid (yeah, right, like dino oil in the turbo was a good idea)
Tranny manufacturer recommends change every 65K miles
Swami has suggested every 50K miles.
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  Quote W8inDE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Dec-2006 at 09:20
The manufacturer, ZF, recommends fluid and filter change at 60k miles. I belive Audi and BMW which also utilize the ZF tranny recommend it a 60k to.

The other original ATF used in the factory fill only has a shelf life of 3 years. I'm sure most of us are beyond that milestone by now.

Reagarding my post, I'll be sticking with the Pentosin as I'm under the VW powertrain warranty and an extended warranty.
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  Quote W8inDE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Dec-2006 at 09:32
Let me recant the Audi and BMW statement. I could have sworn they recommended the change at 60k miles, but couldn't find anything to substantiate it.

But if ZF recommends it, and the fluid is only good for 3 years, I'm changing it.
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  Quote w8cmp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Dec-2006 at 11:06
While my dealer didn't completely change the fluid at 40,000 miles, they topped it up, and the coincidentally at just about 50,000 miles, I got the dreaded 'torque converter not locking up' problem, which required a completely new transmission...

Don't know if the two are linked, but it makes me suspicious...
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  Quote The Swami Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Dec-2006 at 11:19
If you plan on keeping the car long term, I would highly recommend doing the full transmission service which replaces the fluid, pan, filter, and gaskets. What's interesting is that Audi dealerships have made this service part of the scheduled maintenance for their Quattro vehicles but VW doesn't list it for their B5 4Motions. The real killer is that the new 3.64Motions get the Haledex service @ 40,000 miles, and that's expensive!    

If your indy mechanic doesn't know ZF transmissions, you can have the service done at any Audi or BMW dealership. My coworker who is a fellow W8er had the service done at AAMCO, but he insisted that they use the Febi-Bilstein fluid he provided.

I don't have anything against trying Mobil-1 or RedlineD4, but I stuck with VW's fluid because of my Extended Warranty. 7Yrs/100,000 miles


I hope this helps..

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  Quote W8inDE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Dec-2006 at 12:31
What's the "Haledex service?"

Edited by W8inDE - 09-Dec-2006 at 18:32
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  Quote scottbob0 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Dec-2006 at 13:27
i dont think u have a haldex system, the w8 4motion has a torsen lsd thats why we have the 50/50 power transfer.... or am i wrong?       what about the manual trans service?

Edited by scottbob0 - 09-Dec-2006 at 19:38
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